Lack of accountability for their actions has allowed western leaders to send the Ukrainian people down a path with a disastrous end point. For the Ukrainians, not for the rest of us.
Following you it was a mistake that undeniably prolonged human sufferings when the USA heavily supported Sovietunion in World war 2. A proxy war at that moment as the USA was not yet at war with Germany. a quick win by Hitler would have less human suffering.
I apologize for missing this comment when you first posted it, and only responding now.
First point: if we're going to discuss hypothetical scenarios, then let's look at the idea of the U.S. not getting involved in WWI instead. That war was the last great imperial war between European nations trying to build and expand overseas empires.
Without U.S. intervention, and with troops still on French soil, it's reasonable to think the Germans would not have surrendered in the manner they did. American weapon shipments had been critical in enabling the French and British to continue the war, and the prospect of millions of fresh American troops was something the German high command knew they couldn't handle.
But remove the U.S. from the equation and the Germans likely get a truce that puts the situation between them and France back to the pre-war status. There's a good chance this would have led to a much more stable German government post-war, and prevented the rise of Hitler at all.
On the subject of WWII, quite famously one of the Polish diplomats complained to Churchill that Britain had gone to war to protect the Polish people from Germany, then abandoned them to Stalin instead. The Poles were screwed regardless of who won the war.
But this isn't the early 20th century anymore, it's the 21st. Today it's America in the role of Britain, with the huge overseas empire and the ability to dictate the politics in other countries - to the advantage of American companies, of course. It's this imperialism that I'm against, and which I blame for the current war in Ukraine.
On the subject of Nazis, per American news reports from several years ago Nazism has been alive in Ukraine and the neo-Nazis have been committing war crimes in Ukraine for years. Neither government is innocent in all this.
The ones I have sympathy for are the ordinary Ukrainian people. They are caught between American imperial interests and Russia's need for security. But their country is only a battleground because the Americans chose to make it one.
Following you it was a mistake that undeniably prolonged human sufferings when the USA heavily supported Sovietunion in World war 2. A proxy war at that moment as the USA was not yet at war with Germany. a quick win by Hitler would have less human suffering.
I apologize for missing this comment when you first posted it, and only responding now.
First point: if we're going to discuss hypothetical scenarios, then let's look at the idea of the U.S. not getting involved in WWI instead. That war was the last great imperial war between European nations trying to build and expand overseas empires.
Without U.S. intervention, and with troops still on French soil, it's reasonable to think the Germans would not have surrendered in the manner they did. American weapon shipments had been critical in enabling the French and British to continue the war, and the prospect of millions of fresh American troops was something the German high command knew they couldn't handle.
But remove the U.S. from the equation and the Germans likely get a truce that puts the situation between them and France back to the pre-war status. There's a good chance this would have led to a much more stable German government post-war, and prevented the rise of Hitler at all.
On the subject of WWII, quite famously one of the Polish diplomats complained to Churchill that Britain had gone to war to protect the Polish people from Germany, then abandoned them to Stalin instead. The Poles were screwed regardless of who won the war.
But this isn't the early 20th century anymore, it's the 21st. Today it's America in the role of Britain, with the huge overseas empire and the ability to dictate the politics in other countries - to the advantage of American companies, of course. It's this imperialism that I'm against, and which I blame for the current war in Ukraine.
On the subject of Nazis, per American news reports from several years ago Nazism has been alive in Ukraine and the neo-Nazis have been committing war crimes in Ukraine for years. Neither government is innocent in all this.
The ones I have sympathy for are the ordinary Ukrainian people. They are caught between American imperial interests and Russia's need for security. But their country is only a battleground because the Americans chose to make it one.